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Andy please qualify your wind turbines and birds thing – in its current form it's liable to leave people to easily dismissing the impact of wind turbines on birds. My academic background is in ecology and your chart seriously oversimplifies the situation.

The core problem is you're treating birds as a fungible population, almost as if all birds are part of one big species, so all we need to know is what kills the most overall and focus on that.

But of course, birds aren't all one big species. Wind turbines aren't a big killer of birds overall, but they can cause enormous losses to populations of particular species.

By the same logic, poaching is not a significant killer of all wild animals, but it's one of the biggest for rhinoceroses.

Here's one example of turbines be responsible for **half** the deaths recorded in a local population of eagles (WRA here is just "Wind Resource Area):

Of 61 recorded deaths of radio-tagged eagles during the four-year investigation, 33 (54%) resulted

from electrical generation or transmission. Of these, 23 (38%) were caused by wind turbine blade

strikes, and 10 (16%) by electrocutions on distribution lines, all outside the WRA. Additional

fatalities went unrecorded because turbine blade strikes destroyed the transmitter in an estimated

30% of cases. The aerial surveys showed that breeding eagles rarely entered the WRA, whereas non-

territorial eagles tended to move about freely throughout the study area, often visiting the WRA.

https://docs.nrel.gov/docs/fy99osti/26092.pdf

It's not just deaths, either. You can harm birds with slower life history strategies (eg birds of prey that have few young and take longer to mature) with turbines. See here this example with white-tailed eagles:

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0006320711003818

Of course the next move in the argument is, well of course, wind turbines are net positive for the environment, suck it up, shut up and multiply etc etc.

But this would again oversimplify. First, large birds of prey are frequently keystone species. One lost sparrow is very different to one lost raptor. The impacts of raptor deaths on populations of their prey can be huge and greatly influence foodwebs beneath them. It's not just hopeless sentimentality by clueless hippies; a distorted ecosystem is now a significant consequence for wind turbine construction and one that, even if overridden, needs to be given due weight.

It's not necessarily either wind turbines OR birds, see this study on the impact of partial stoppages. Not all turbines at all times are equally lethal. There can be ways to mitigate the effect, see this study:

https://docs.wind-watch.org/deLucas-2012-vultures-spain.pdf

I'm not anti-wind turbine; I've paid my own money to go and see them out at sea, I think they're beautiful things. And there are example where they can help create reefs and encourage biodiversity, as well. There are no solutions, only trade-offs, and all that. I get it.

But we need to give the sometimes catastrophic problems they do cause some species due weight. It's about way more than just raw bird numbers.

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Some more proposals:

-GMOs

-Nuclear fission

-Wind farms killing migratory birds

-Solar farms taking up all of the good farmland

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