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Egg Syntax's avatar

For what it's worth, I think you've made a solid case and I'm pretty much convinced. I don't have any special knowledge about data centers, but I'm an AI safety researcher and former software engineer, with some background in climate research (I developed a widely used algorithm for measuring precipitation).

Prior to your series on this, I assumed that the claims about data centers having unusual bad effects were mostly correct, so I was initially skeptical of your counterclaims. I'm not sure I've read literally everything you've written on the issue, but I've certainly read most of them, and have dug into various of your sources and worked through some of the math, and your arguments have consistently held up modulo small quibbles here and there.

I think you've successfully made the case that this is essentially a moral panic, and the energy going into fighting data centers ought to be redirected to more important issues. I remain open to the possibility that data centers are actually causing disproportionate harm, but as you say here, at this point I would have to see some solid concrete evidence to be convinced of that.

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I live not far from the Saline Twp Michigan datacenter and here are some factors I have seen:

- The datacenter did a great job of casting itself as a sinister villain. The company made a deal with the Governor, a D, and then strong-armed a volunteer township board. The board first pushed back and basically wanted more scrutiny including around the tax situation, and then were beset by some of the highest paid corporate attorneys in the world. Oh and these are mostly R people.

- The construction is running dozens of to-legal-limit double gravel haulers right through the center of town each day. The subcontractor truck drivers also tried out every rural and residential shortcut to speed their route, further alienating virtually everyone.

- The site of the project is right in the middle of multigenerational small and medium agriculture businesses that are already struggling- the names of the owners are also the names on all the roads, schools and plaques around here.

- This on top of the usual “this shopping center used to be a beautiful farm” and sprawling subdivisions.

They did everything but poison the firehouse Dalmatian.

Everyone already has great unease with the pace of change, growing uncertainty, a sense of being out of control, and then here comes Oracle, of all the companies, to do a Scooby-Doo-level assault on the community. A bunch of people, standing around with pitchforks and torches but nothing to march against, and from the sky drops a slicked up Silicon Valley caricature in an ogre costume.

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