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Kappuchino's avatar

The comments are interesting so far: From my understanding, they're celebrating that "AI isn't bad" or at least that bad. Well ...

... another "easy" metric is the datacenter count x energy consumption. Please show me, how that is going down and I'll shut up.

Because until the 3rd Summer of AI datacenter consumption and grow was slow / or was pointing down per center. Systems got more and more energy effective thanks optimization of Hardware and Virtualization.

But now its 30 to 50% up in Energy and CO2 since 2020 for Microsoft, Google and so on. Why the f** would they need atomic energy so bad?

Also, the current speculation on datacenters *needed* in the future for anything AI is a business - much like the oil industry - that will create demand one way or another. Either demand is high and will pay out. Or ... by overproviding, the cost will be that low, AI becomes dirt cheap for a while to put it in anything up to your buttons. WIN WIN.

On top of that Future AI - unless there is a transformer miracle - will need so much more than a few hundred tokens per task: AI Agent Systems need constant and multiplied compute time to function.

But hey, what do I know, I only see the big picture and read the financial statments of AI & datacenter companies. Maybe its all a bubble. Maybe you should read the enviroment and risk sections, too.

Vincent's avatar

Thanks for pointing this out! Got here via Hannah Ritchie. But.. As we're nuancing anyway, shouldn't the title be: "In comparison to other activities, using ChatGPT is less harmful to the environment then generally claimed"? It's very helpful in the discussion to understand what we're talking about, but in my view a conclusion based on a relative rating is too optimistic. Reversed, If i started using an extreme amount of energy, then a cruise would also pale. Obviously, this is a ridiculous excursive and although still ambivalent on this, in the end, i don't think it helps to point at others that they're doing worse, to justify you're own actions... The (cumulative) effect of everyone using ChatGPT also has consequences; I fear these kinds of pissing contests trivialize this.

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